British Jews mobilise for Israel

British Jews descended on Kensington, London for an hour on wednesday night to voice their support for Israel over its worldwide condemnation after the deaths on the Mavi Marmara last sunday.

300 pro-Israel supporters draped in Israeli flags met near the cordoned off Israeli Embassy and waved signs which read “Peace activists don’t use weapons” and “End Hamas Rockets = End Blockade”.

They sang Hatikva and Am Israel Chai and cheered as cars sounded their horns in support.

The demonstration was organised by the Zionist Federation.

One black cabbie had “Am YIsrael Chai” stuck to his window as he drove by (see below).

The boys from Chabad were there doing brisk business in laying tefillin on people (see below).

There was a huge police presence to divide the pro-Israeli supporters from the 40 or so anti-Israel supporters, which included Jews for Boycotting Israeli Goods (JBIG) and the International Jewish anti-Zionist Network (IJAN). But the anti-Zionists of the Neturei Karta had obviously taken the night off to go to the flicks.

There were rumours that the English Defence League might turn up to support Israel, but there was neither a skinhead nor a beer-belly in sight.

At the end the hundreds of pro-Israel supporters were escorted to the station under heavy police-guard, which isn’t surprising as they were assailed with cries of “Nazis” (see video), “Racist scum” and “Long Live Hamas”, as they passed in front of the anti-Israel supporters.

They hit back quickly with “We support peace, you support terror”.

Pro-Israel demo. video/pics:

Anti-Israel demo. video/pics:

74 responses to “British Jews mobilise for Israel

  1. Tony Greenstein’s blog has photos of EDL activists openly fraternising with ZF activists on the demonstration on which Richard Millett says “There were rumours that the English Defence League might turn up to support Israel, but there was neither a skinhead nor a beer-belly in sight.”

    What’s this? http://bitURL.net/exe

    And how can Richard Millett be so flagrantly dishonest? The EDL was there with the ZF and he must have known that.

    Perhaps Richard Millett didn’t see that the self-styled guardians of the Jewish community (the racist war criminal supporting elements of it, that is) the Community Security Trust were also there to maintain security for this ZF/NF love-in.

    When Israel reinvaded Jenin and other West Bank towns and refugee camps back in 2002 the zios organised a demo of 60 k at Trafalgar Square to support the racist war criminals under the command of the nearly late Ariel Sharon. Four years later the zios could only muster 4 k at the Jews Free School to hear the Chief Rabbi say “Israel, you make us proud”. Two years after that the Beeb was persuaded to say that there were 4 k supporters of the slaughter of Gazans in operation Cast Lead. And now Richard Millett can proudly state that there were 300 people to applaud Israel killing unarmed people intent on delivering humanitarian supplies to the people of Gaza. Tony Greenstein too says there were about 300 on the zio-nazi demo for Israel but Tony counted the nazi contingent as well as the zios. Perhaps Millett just can’t tell the difference. But then again, nor can I. But what I can tell is that Israel behaviour has now become so degenerate there are fewer and fewer people coming out to support them. Hence the need for the neo-nazi element to keep up the numbers.

  2. Yvetta Bagel

    What is the man in the check shirt on the video yelling? It is very loud but my poor assailed eardrums couldn’t quite make out the word. Something not pretty, I’m sure.

  3. Ruth Feinstein

    I think he’s yelling because he’s outraged over the murders of humanitarian workers by Israel. What normal person wouldn’t feel disgust, horror and anger over the atrocity that was committed by the state that is a political cesspool?

    He’s also yelling because so many children were up past their bedtimes. Shame!

  4. Where those gathered last night were there for peace, you just need to hear the comments in the video from those over the road to see what their intentions were. Chants of “Nazis” from the man in the check shirt and the woman shouting “Long Live Hamas”

  5. richardmillett

    levi9909 – those people you refer to as EDL could have been anyone. They were not even in with the pro-Israel demo.

  6. Zio-Nazi demo, Levi??? I think you show just how low it is possible to get when you sit in the anti Israel camp. If you want people to take you seriously (I presume you do), then stop making such morally obscene and intellectually threadbare comparisons.

  7. Let me butt in for a moment. As far as I am and the concept of level-headed sane rationality are concerned, no one ever credibly blamed the EDL with “racism”. The EDL is clearly not racist, but anti-Islamist. A universe of diff that the peddlers of anti-Jewishness like to “forget”. Well done boys and well done IDF!

  8. Unimpressed

    According to the blog linked to above, Jonathan Hoffman gave an interview defending the inclusion of the EDL at the pro-Israel demonstration. I don’t know if this is true or not, but if it is and the proof is revealed, then I’m pretty sure that’s a very significant event.

    Israelis/Zionists aligning themselves with fascism and the far-right politics of the EDL (who are actually anti-Semitic). Would make it very clear to see the difference between ordinary Jewish people who obviously and understandably deplore anti-Semitism, and Zionists who are willing to work with anti-Semites and what Richard Millet calls ‘skin-heads’ and ‘beer-bellies’.

    Come to think of it, Richard Millet are you not a skinhead yourself? A bit of a Freudian slip there😉

    It goes without saying that the celebrating of the slaughter of innocent civilians is disgusting. Everyone at the demonstration should be ashamed of themselves, but then I’m sure with the international condemnation pouring it, the Zionists were desperate (as usual) to do something.

  9. Daniel Marks

    I have no insight to offer about the EDL, but it’s site doesn’t seem to be terribly anti-Semitic. If they have any ideas how to throw British Jews out, however, and put them on boats home to Israel I may even send them a few Shekels.

    Kol Hakavod to all those who turned up for the wonderful demonstration, especially that particularly attractive sleeveless lady with the red hat and interesting sign.

    • Tim Vanhoof

      I notice this open call for Jews to be thrown out of Britain appears on a Zionist blog. Oh the irony.

  10. Saw you on Press TV again (well, heard you). You’re now assuming the role of Don Quixote, flailing at windmills. All you need is a Sancho Panza, perhaps Daniel or Mike are for hire?

  11. flotillaterrorshit

    Richard who is Daniel Marks talking about? What interesting sign? I want to see it.
    I think my mate Gert wants to see it too. Right Gert?

    I say also. The fatty terrorist lover girl shouting “long live Hamas” needs to go and get her moustache waxed. I think they do waxing at Ahava so I can pass on their business card to her.

    Having been there myself yesterday, I can confirm as a first hand witness, the fatty terrorist lover girl shouting “come here and say that” was aiming this at the girl with the interesting sign who was shaking her skinny behind at her and belly dancing with the Israeli flag. I think the fatty girl doesn’t like attractive Zionist girls belly dancing and shaking her behind at her whilst waving the Israeli flag.

    Although of course I could be wrong. She might love it.

    Lovely day eh?

  12. So ‘flotillaterrorshit’ and ‘Gerty’s mate’ are probably one and the same. Interesting…

  13. From Tony Greenstein:

    “Jonathan Hoffman himself gave an interview to a reporter where he openly defended demonstrating with the EDL as ‘there was no proof of any link with the BNP.’ Presumably the fact that they have repeatedly been photographed giving sieg heil salutes is not enough? And in fact there is copious evidence that the EDL and BNP members work hand in hand.”

    Journalist Millett caught with pants down again… These aren’t great days to be a Zio…

  14. Gamil Elias

    Blessing is the Knives and blessing are the happy stones. Even the water has cryed while wicked Zionist pirating the good and pissfull ship.

    Gert and I are never to fear and we know that all the zionist womans haves smelly feet when the are copulatting with themselves.

    All the best!

    Gamil

  15. Tim Vanhoof

    So while the ZF is distancing itself from the EDL (a good thing), we have FG claiming the EDL is not racist (nonsense to anyone who has given one of their forums the most cursory glance).

  16. Daniel Marks

    Gamil,

    “Gert and I”

    Are you really Gert’s friend? Do you really know him?

    He claims that you are not, and he has even questioned whether you exist at all.

    Do you have any comments on this matter?

    Please do not take offense, but your English is not always easy to understand. Perhaps you could have someone check what you write before you post, I’m sure that Gert would be glad to help out. His email is public knowledge so I will take the liberty of writing it:

    Gert.Meyers@gmail.com

    If you need his home address, daily schedule etc, I understand Mike has them.

    Daniel

    Daniel

  17. Yes, I do. And I am gathering metal piping for our ice cream together in Bridlington (for peaceful purposes, of course . . . just like those lovely Turks, God bless ’em).

    I had coffee on Rothschild, this morning, with a Belgian. I told him about “Gestapo”. He said most of the Flemish he knew there were anti-Semites. So “Gestapo” doens’t disappoint.

    Feeling a bit schizo today, Daniel Daniel?

  18. Melchett:

    I had coffee on Rothschild, this morning, with a Belgian. I told him about “Gestapo”. He said most of the Flemish he knew there were anti-Semites. So “Gestapo” doens’t disappoint.

    This is you all over and what makes you potentially such a dangerous individual, the veiled threats set aside.

    If your unnamed contact is referring to people from Vlaams Belang (formerly Vlaams Blok) he might even have a moot point (although even that’s a gross exaggeration, these anti-immigrant nuts tend to be similar to UKIP types, if anything). Vlaams Belang is a minority party though, punished for their racism by ALL other parties by means of the so-called ‘cordon sanitaire’ (look it up).

    Your contact’s gross generalisation is the kind of jingoistic, unsubstantiated claptrap that people like Melchett not only lap up, they also base their miniscule world view on it. No evidence needed. His mind is made up, now please don’t confuse him with the facts.

    In Melchett’s world, the world is simply antisemitic, Flemish, French or whatever. And that includes swathes of Jews too…

  19. Daniel:

    Gamil does almost certainly not exist, only as someone else’s ‘persona’. It’s a drawback of this comment section that people aren’t required to sign in with a valid Internet handle. This way we don’t even know who’s who…

  20. I’m surprised there aren’t more Brits demonstrating against Islamofascists . . . and less, like “Gestapo”, kissing their asses.

    http://melchettmike.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/islamofascists-and-the-bnp-the-devil-and-the-deep-blue-sea/

  21. “In Melchett’s world, the world is simply antisemitic, Flemish, French or whatever.”

    Or c*nts, Gestapo.

  22. Great to see the turnout opposing the lies about this propaganda stunt flotilla, made up of the usual Islamists shouting “Khaybr, khaybar, oh Jew, the armies of Mohammed are coming! ” (how peaceful for “peace” activists) and the far leftists with whom they share no values – except hating Jews that is.

  23. Those who have such problems with the EDL have no problems with this flotilla including antisemitic morons from the IHH shouting Jew hating slogans (available to view at MEMRI). What hypocrisy!

    Any of these useful idiots even know what the IHH is?

  24. I knew a Flemish guy at Uni whose middle name was “Adolph”, named after , well, guess who. I thought he was joking – no, he assured me it really was the case.

    I think you’d have to look quite far to find that elsewhere.

  25. Gamil Elias

    Don’t try too be my freind Daniel.

    My grandfather has sayed: ‘If you are trying to kiss fat camels buttoxes, he might fart in your fat faces.”

    Are you understanding?

  26. richardmillett

    I wish people could supply evidence that the EDL were present or even welcomed last night. Two overweight men having a chat does not equate to EDL!

  27. Adam:

    I knew a Flemish guy at Uni whose middle name was “Adolph”, named after , well, guess who. I thought he was joking – no, he assured me it really was the case.

    I know a guy in the US who changed his name to Charles Darwin (unlike your Adolphe you can find him on the net, I’m sure).Obviously that’s because most Americans are what they like to call ‘evolutionists’…

    You twat…

  28. Gestapo, how come you consider metal piping and ice cream from me a “veiled threat” . . . but metal piping without ice cream from a heavily mustachioed Turk a gesture of peace?

    If you can provide a reasonable explanation – Daniel Marks can be a neutral referee – I will leave Bridlington off my summer “ice cream” destinations.

  29. Melchett:

    I actually agree with you and some of my more progressive Israeli friends that those who attacked your soldiers weren’t peaceful activists at all. And it’s even possible there were some real Jew haters on board.

    But that is not the reason the ships were boarded though, is it? The ships were boarded because Israel wanted to have its own way re. its ‘naval blockade’ and because the activists were making a point of not wanting to be ‘diverted’ to Ashdod.

    The activists on board the other ships didn’t resist: neither would I have, at gun point! Hardly ‘peaceful’ now, is it? ‘Divert, don’t resist or else we’ll shoot!’ Please spare me the legalese, no one is listening anymore…

    The International outcry you’re seeing is the culmination of decades of Israeli ‘we’ll show’em!’, including Leb I, Leb II, the siege of Gaza (in its third year now), Cast Lead, a 42 year long occupation and colonisation and now this. Why do you think increasing numbers of even American Liberal Jews (in the past among Israel’s most loyal supporters) are beginning to disagree with Israel’s disaster politics? Because they’ve all become self-haters overnight?

    Right now your boys can’t come out of their barracks without tripping.

  30. “Reasonable”, Daniel? Do I cancel my rail ticket?

  31. richardmillett

    Gert, you’re being a bit naive. Israel has always had these problems but things came to the fore quite quickly after 1967 when the world saw that israel could stand on its feet which allowed everyone else to finally dispense with their guilt over what had happened 25 years earlier. You would have been going on about “International Outcry” in 1975 also. After all that was the year of the UN “Zionism = Racism” resolution. In 1975 your ancestors would have been criticising Israel for whatever led to that resolution. Probably, the aftermath of Munich and Israel’s seeking out and murdering the terrorists. Israel survived then and it will surive now.

  32. Richard:

    Israel survived then and it will surive now.

    Who is talking about its ‘survival’? Or ‘demise’? No one that I know.

    This is more than a dent in its force field though. There will be serious repercussions. The siege will have to be at least eased off a lot. In the medium term the blockade is no solution to anything.

  33. richardmillett

    Ok, what i meant was that this kind of situation has replicated itself since Israel’s creation. There is nothing new about it really. Israel has been under pressure since 1948. There hasn’t been one year when Israel hasn’t been. 2010 is no different. Once the blockade is lifted it will be something else.

  34. Gert

    It was Adolph, not Adolphe, you illiterate twat

    You may be interested to know of the high volunteer rate amongst the Flemish population for SS units fighting against the Soviets. Must be because they are so liberal, like you.

    “It was possible there were some Jew haters on board”.

    No Gert, they WERE Jew haters, as my reference to Khaybar demonstrates.

  35. Gert “no one I know.”

    You don’t know any members of the IHH then, who organized this whole stunt?

  36. Gert the international outcry is the culmination of the decades of lies, propaganda, vilification and distortion – which has worked well on you it seems.

  37. Gerty's Mate

    Gert Gert Gert
    How can you possibly compare me to that wannabe flotillaterrorshit ?
    I think I’m gonna have to rethink our whole relationship thing.
    I feel that I’m the one who’s always giving and you hardly reciprocate at all!
    How long do you think we can continue like this?
    Sorry but that’s just the way I feel.

  38. Michael Goldman

    Gert
    I suggest you be very careful of the Melchett boy, he’s got a bit of a rep.

    EDL
    I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for Daniel’s contribution.He wouldn’t even sponsor me when I rode my bicycle for the Alyn hospital!

  39. Daniel Marks

    “Two overweight men having a chat does not equate to EDL!” – Richard Millet

    The nice bit is that you have a demostration with scores of flag-waving Zionists, but two of them are overweight so they must be gentile members of the EDL. The logic is that us Jews are always slim and hansome, so if you’ve got a couple of fatties, they’re the goyim.

    I recommend to all of our enemies who believe this to be the case to take a good, hard look at Michael Goldman in his cycling shorts.

    After that I recommend that you have a long stiff drink – you’ll need it.

  40. flotillaterrorshit

  41. Adam:

    You may be interested to know of the high volunteer rate amongst the Flemish population for SS units fighting against the Soviets. Must be because they are so liberal, like you.

    A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

    There were fascist collaborators in every country, including Britain.

    In both Flanders and Wallonia there were people who tied in their fate with Hitler, stupidly believing their country would benefit from Germany’s ‘Third Reich’. Some volunteered for service in the Wehrmacht and most of those got sent to the Eastern front. Very few will have made it into the SS, as these were practically handpicked elite fighters, meeting special criteria.

    Belgium is neither a particularly liberal or conservative country: the political pendulum swings there like anywhere else. We have some Far Right parties, like Vlaams Belang (ostracised completely by ALL mainstream parties), as do all European countries including the UK.

    The bottom line is that if you want to prove that some country or region has above average racist and/or antisemitic tendencies, you’ll have to do a lot better that screaming some half-witted half-truths or inanities.

  42. Ooops, what one character can do to a post! Reposting:

    Adam:

    You may be interested to know of the high volunteer rate amongst the Flemish population for SS units fighting against the Soviets. Must be because they are so liberal, like you.

    A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

    There were fascist collaborators in every country, including Britain.

    In both Flanders and Wallonia there were people who tied in their fate with Hitler, stupidly believing their country would benefit from Germany’s ‘Third Reich’. Some volunteered for service in the Wehrmacht and most of those got sent to the Eastern front. Very few will have made it into the SS, as these were practically handpicked elite fighters, meeting special criteria.

    Belgium is neither a particularly liberal or conservative country: the political pendulum swings there like anywhere else. We have some Far Right parties, like Vlaams Belang (ostracised completely by ALL mainstream parties), as do all European countries including the UK.

    The bottom line is that if you want to prove that some country or region has above average racist and/or antisemitic tendencies, you’ll have to do a lot better that screaming some half-witted half-truths or inanities.

  43. Richard:

    Until the power differential between USrael and the Palestinians is restored and equitable negotiations can be held between the parties, some like me will try and redress the power balance by supporting the Palestinians.

  44. Michael G.:

    Gert
    I suggest you be very careful of the Melchett boy, he’s got a bit of a rep.

    Yes, thanks: some birdie told me about that…

  45. Richard:

    Whatever the truth is about the EDL presence at the rally, this facebook thread is well worth a gander:

    http://www.facebook.com/EnglishDefenceLeagueJewishDivision

  46. richardmillett

    Gert, no one one can stop the EDL setting this up if they wish. It isn’t in conjunction with any Jewish organisation as far as i can tell.

  47. flotillaterrorshit

    Kelvin Mckenzie? Wow. Any hasbara vacancies going for him in Israel? Fabulous. Watch from 25 mins…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00sppd9/Question_Time_03_06_2010/

  48. Daniel Marks

    “My grandfather has sayed: ‘If you are trying to kiss fat camels buttoxes, he might fart in your fat faces.”
    Are you understanding?” – Gamil

    Not really. Maybe either you or Gert would be kind enough as to explain.

    In the meantine shabbat shalom to friends – old and new, fat and thin, on land and at sea!

  49. Fair enough…

  50. Gert, yours is a transparent attempt at guilt by association. What if EDL members had turned up in their thousands? What would this prove? That the Jews are fascists? As Richard has pointed out, no Jewish group has had anything to do with them. So what’s your point?

    A little aside about Belgium. Doesn’t feel nice when someone rounds on your country, does it? Yet imagine that magnified thousands of times, and that is what Israelis have to live with, a steady stream of vitriol, ignorance and invective. And most of it is antisemitism, let’s be honest.

    You’re right, a little knowledg3e is a dangerous thing. So you will know that volunteer rates by Flemish Belgians for SS units (they were indeed fighting with the SS as subordinate units, specifically chosen for their antisemitism) far exceeded that of other countries, for example Denmark, or indeed their Walloon fellow countrymen. The British contingent to which you refer, the British free corps, (I believe also called the St Geroge’s brigade) was made up of about 40 members, and never saw action, unlike the Flemish Nazis. It is important to point out anti-Nazi resistance amongst some Flemish as well.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27th_SS_Volunteer_Division_Langemarck

  51. Gert, I saw an interesting interview with a Pakistani publication. You don’t simply “support the Palestinians”, you describe yourself as an “anti-Zionist” – presumably meaning that you support the destruction of Israel?

    Furthermore, you say Iran is “much maligned in the West”. How is a country which hangs children in public, stones women and homosexuals to death, hosts Holocaust denial conferences and organizes Holocaust cartoon competitions (winning entry, Anne Frank in bed with Hitler – how clever!), rapes women by the basiji before they are executed (you aren’t allowed by law to execute a virgin – solution, raper her). How is this country maligned – I’d really like to know.

    If Israel did these things I’m sure you’d be up in arms. I believe it’s called hypocrisy Gert.

  52. Adam:

    Just a few points.

    Gert, yours is a transparent attempt at guilt by association.

    .

    Which is exactly what you’ve been doing here with unsubstantiated claptrap with regards to Flanders. Which is exactly what the Zionists are constantly trying by linking Hamas/Hezbollah to al-Qaeda (there is no such connection whatsoever). Which is exactly what numpties like you are trying to do by smearing a contingent of activists from about 30 countries with the epithet ‘al-Qaeda sympatisers’.

    When it comes to hypocrisy you’re the expert.

    The point that is relevant re. the EDL is that former (?) antisemites like the BNP and the EDL now support Israel. We’ve seen antisemitic support for Israel many times before, sometimes with murderous consequences, see e.g. Sabra – Shatilah.

    And most of it is antisemitism, let’s be honest.

    Bollocks. Yaaawwn…

    (they were indeed fighting with the SS as subordinate units, specifically chosen for their antisemitism)

    Bollocks again. Many Europeans chose the wrong side because of the idiotic idea their country and themselves would benefit from allying with the Nazis. Antisemitism was probably not the main driver there. Anti-communism played a big part. There were Nazi sympathisers in the US too. And antisemites.

    amongst some Flemish as well.

    Clever use of the word ‘some’. You have no idea of the numbers and present zero evidence for what you assert. Belgium toiled under Nazi occupation for four long years.

    “[…] presumably meaning that you support the destruction of Israel?

    Even you aren’t quite as dumb as that. I oppose Zionism in its current form: occupation of Palestinian land, collective punishment of Gaza, colonisation of WB, in a nutshell.

    If Israel did these things I’m sure you’d be up in arms.

    If what Iran had done to the flotilla what Israel recently did to it, Iran would probably be facing an invasion by now.

    Have you forgotten the Mossadeq affair? Western support for Saddam Hussein in his war of aggression against Iran? Iraq’s use of chemical weapons against Iran? The US, UK and most European countries’ colonisation sprees, among others in the ME? British colonialism there and elsewhere? That in Britain acts of homosexuality were imprisonable offences up to 1967?

    You sure you still want to play the blame game?

  53. Oh dear Gert, seems I’ve hit a nerve. Good. Now you have a slight inkling what it’s like when you spread your vitriol about the Jewish state.

    It really seems you don’t like some of Flanders’ history being exposed – it isn’t unsubstantiated, as you well know. Yes, there were antisemites in the US, with pro Nazi sympathies, so what? Does this make it less bad that Flanders provided men for the SS death units on the Eastern front? “Look, others were at it too!” Great defence. All these units were involved in war crimes against Soviet civilians and Jews. Unsubstantiated? Read the link I provided. It wasn’t “idiotic” to join the SS units in subordinate roles, it was evil. The Nazis and their collaborators weren’t idiots Gert. Clever use of the word “Belgium” – the Walloons were more anti-Nazi than the Flemish. Must hurt Gert.

    Hamas are indeed linked to Hizbollah and Al-Qaeda in more subtle ways than you seem to be able to fathom. They aren’t the same – but they do share similarities. Converting the world to Islam through force is one. Killing Jews is another. You may argue about the menas and theocratic theories if you wish – but in the end it will men the same. And there will be Gert sitting in a corner saying he couldn’t see it coming.

    Can you provide evidence of the EDL being antisemitic?

    And there you go again – guilt by assocoation. Some members of the BNP have supported Israel – must mean Israel is a BNP state then, right? The fact that many BNP people are rabidly anti-Israel seems to have escaped your notice, but then facts clearly aren’t your forte.

    Iran would be facing an invasion? To use your refined wording (the product of an unrefined mind), bollocks. They get away with murdering hundreds in the streets (who demonstrated for a fair election and an end to theocratic rule) and torture centres (sodomising male prisoners with implements is a great speciality of the Mullahs) – my GP has treated some of the victims – sometimes the mullahs join in the torture. What has that to do with Mossadeq? What a great smokescreen. Your defence of the fascist tyrannical dictatorship of Iran is sickening. Unfortunatley your rant ends with a load of accusations which I have never mentioned – you are simply talking to yourself.
    The blame game is yours, and it must always be aimed at Israel. If that means siding with regimes like that in Tehran, so be it.

    You really need to look at yourself.

  54. And here’s a song he’ll like . . .

  55. And have you heard this?

  56. melchettmike, thanks for this. You’ve really done your homework! This guy is obviously a charlatan, and a rabid hater, but frankly, I enjoy annoying Israel haters.

    It is easy to see their hypocrisy, and the obsessive and irrational nature of their hatred. His pathetic and sick defence of tyrannical despots in Iran give the game away.

    As for the “Go back to Auschwitz” comment, it just shows who these people are. Jew haters. What a surprise!

  57. Quite, Adam! Though “Gestapo”, too, is not merely an “Israel hater”.

    Wait for his brilliant defence . . . that I hate the French (which I, at least, have the integrity not to deny: http://melchettmike.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/hating-the-french-racist-or-merely-human

  58. Adam:

    You’re an imbecile and not worth engaging with.

    Here’s a little food for thought. Assume, for argument’s sake, that all of Flanders (or even all of Europe, bar the completely Holy Anglo-Saxon world, needless to say) were Nazis. 100 %, no exceptions. That would make me logically speaking the son of a Nazi, right? Is the son of a Nazi also a Nazi? Because that’s where you’re coming from. And your spiel about Flanders would have been a spiel about France/Holland/Germany etc etc had I been French/Dutch/German etc etc. Funny also how the few descendants of Flemish Nazi collaborators (there are some in Vlaams Belang) are politically my natural born enemies: you know zilch and understand nada. Poco loco, you are… It’s seems symptomatic that this blog attracts loonies of various strands.

    Regards the EDL, ask most of your friends how they view them. Regards the BNP, Nick Griffin went on record very publicly (‘Question Time’, look it up) with his support for the Zionist Entity. He’s the Dear Leader, ferchrissakes…

    Support for Israel by the EDL and the BNP aren’t a big deal but you’ll have to accept that for the Left it’s rather a funny situation…

  59. Ha Gert! No evidence that the EDL is racist, except…ask your friends what they think of them. Well, that proves it, doesn’t it? How can one argue with such a logical argument from such a towering intellect?

    That’s truly pathetic Gert, and you know it.

    As for Flanders, it really is interesting how this has got under your skin. Yet you don’t expect Jews to react to the incessant lies and bile aimed at their homeland. One wonders indeed, what makes you so defensive about Flemish Nazis.

    And still not a peep out of you condemning the Iranian tyranny, nor the ansisemites and racists on board the ship, nor the IHH. Selectivity at its finest. Yes Gert, not worth engaging with because you lack the mental capacity to do so.

  60. Care to join us in Bridlington for our ice cream, Adam?

  61. Adam:

    “[…] ask your friends what they think of them.”

    That they are racists, about that there is not a shimmer of doubt: ‘Islamification of Britain types’ always are. Whether they’re all antisemites or not, I don’t know. Hence the ‘why not ask your mates what they think of it’.

    As for Flanders, you happen to have hit on a non-Nationalist (well, anti-Nationalist really). My defense of Flanders is only in the name of truth. I find Melchett’s rabid francophobia just as revolting as your ‘history in a tiny box’ attitude… Not to mention his homophobia, of course. Some people seem to want the full set…

    Yet you don’t expect Jews to react to the incessant lies and bile aimed at their homeland.

    Where did I say such a thing? Nowhere.

    As regards the IHH (whatever you think of them) you’re missing the elephant in the room. Assume again for argument sake that on board the Maramara had been bin Laden, his second and third in command along with some Jihadists. Well, that would not have been the reason why Israel boarded the ship. The reason is the illegal and immoral siege of Gaza.

    Same with the Rachel Corrie, intercepted in the early hours of this morning.

    The bigger picture is not looking good for Israel no matter how many imbeciles compose silly songs about the incident.

    Here are the names and faces of the dead. One of them seems to have a black belt in a Japanese martial sport: scary!

    Hasbara isn’t getting a handle on this one…

  62. “There is no doubt that they are racist ” – beside the fact that you have provided no evidence of course. But then, truth isn’t your forte. It’s funny how you are keen to call the EDL racist, but bend over backwards to avoid saying the same about those on the ships (despite REAL evidence), or the Israel bashing lobby (despite REAL evidence – and I have seen it myself).

    “Islamification of Europe types” – I don’t know what that is – but I do know that there are Muslims who think precisely that, and actively work towards it. There are loads of examples on Youtube. Do some research. I really didn’t realize being a critic of Islam made one a racist. The Islamic race?

    No, you are missing the elephant – that the IHH is a racist, antisemitic, anti-Western, anti-democratic, misogynistic jihadist movement. You neatly sidestep that one by playing your blame game – “it’s all Israel’s fault” – again. The blockade of Gaza is not illegal, (again, do some research) nor is it immoral – unless you think it immoral that Hamas can’t rearm to kill more Jews. And it isn’t even a true blockade – aid flows through freely, and Israel even provides electricity and power to an entity bent on destroying it (the only example of such a thing in the world). Meanwhile, thousands of Palestinians receive free medical treatment in Israel, including the daughter of a Hamas commander recently. In my view, Israel is far too generous. And again you avoid the issue of the racism on the ships. It’s called cognitive dissonance – where the evidence of your eyes does not tally with your preconceived notions.

    Wallow in your hatred – it obviously gives your life purpose.

  63. Hey Gert, “Islamification of Europe types” – from the horse’s mouth.

  64. melchettmike, I’d rather have one in Tel Aviv – the ice cream in Bridlington is rather bitter.

  65. Gert, I might not like the French, but I am no homophobe. I recommend that you immediately retract calling me one. And apologise.

    I will only ask once. Don’t say you weren’t told.

  66. Sorry, Melchett but people who use expressions like:

    Even though he himself might not take it up the jacksie, I reckon that Michael Goldman “cares for” one “gay boy” at least.

    … are usually gay bashers. If you’re not then why not tone down your language a bit? Would you make the same kind of statements with regards to straight people? I doubt that very much… I know, I know, you’re ‘not the PC type’ but that’s nothing to be particularly proud of…

  67. And now I’m out of here. As I predicted: with regards to the Marmara affair a few will defiantly continue to deny everything and call all others antisemitic. But they will be talking among themselves and listening to their own silly songs… Israel as a state will probably draw some conclusions from it, obviously not unanimously. So be it.

    Bye.

  68. And with a great flourish, Gert leaves the stage. Except he hasn’t answered any of the points put to him.

    This is because he can’t, and thus leaves.

    Game, set and match.

  69. Daniel Marks

    “You’re an imbecile and not worth engaging with.”

    “no matter how many imbeciles compose silly songs about the incident.”

    Hi G

  70. Daniel Marks

    “You’re an imbecile and not worth engaging with.”

    “no matter how many imbeciles compose silly songs about the incident.”

    Hi Gert,

    What’s with you and that word?

    Is the new definition of an imbecile anyone who doesn’t agree with Gert?

    Guess rhat makes Mike one too. Dare you to say so!

  71. Not a retraction or an apology, Gert . . . but, trust me, I’ll eventually get both!