Save the children…except when they’re Israeli.

Kerry Smith (Save The Children), Lord Warner, Aimee Shalan (Medical Aid for Palestinians) last night.

Kerry Smith (Save The Children), Lord Warner, Aimee Shalan (Medical Aid for Palestinians) last night.

I was back at Parliament last night for the launch of a joint report by Save The Children and Medical Aid for Palestinians called Falling Behind – The Effect Of The Blockade On Child Health in Gaza.

The same day a report was released called Children in Military Custody. This may explain why there were only 20 people at my meeting.

It must have been a good day to release bad news about Israel. With politicians, NGOs and charities totally impotent to stop massacres in Syria and starvation and disease in Africa they got back to doing what they do best; delegitimising Israel.

I haven’t had a chance to read Children in Military Custody except to note that it starts off by stating:

“We have no reason to differ from the view of Her Majesty’s Government and the international community that these settlements are illegal.”

This despite Article 6 of the British Mandate which called for “close settlement by Jews on the land”. So when did those “settlements” suddenly become “illegal”?

Anyone?

Children in Military Custody also relies heavily on a recent report on exactly the same subject matter by Defence for Children International – Palestine Section called Bound, Blindfolded & Convicted: Children held in military detention.

How many reports on exactly the same subject do we need? Obviously there is no austerity in some NGOs and government departments (Children in Military Custody was funded by the UK’s Foreign and Commonwealth Office)

The main problem with Bound, Blindfolded & Convicted is that all the testimony was taken anonymously.

Similarly, Children in Military Custody adopted the ‘Chatham House principle’ of not attributing quotes to individuals, again making it impossible to test the evidence.

Meanwhile, the Israeli Embassy in London responded to Children in Military Custody by noting that Palestinians under the age of 18 were encouraged by school textbooks and television programmes to glorify terrorism. As a result they were often involved in lethal acts which presented the Israeli authorities with serious challenges.

But the Embassy said Israel intends to study the recommendations “as part of its ongoing efforts to find the most appropriate balance between preventing violence and treating perpetrators with humanity”.

As for Falling Behind – The Effect Of The Blockade On Child Health in Gaza Kerry Smith (Humanitarian Advocacy Adviser, Save The Children) and Aimee Shalan (Director of Advocacy and Communications, Medical Aid for Palestinians) solely blamed Israel’s blockade for the apparent swathe of malnutrition and disease sweeping the children of Gaza caused by, inter alia, lack of medicines and there being (literally) no safe drinking water in Gaza.

I asked how this could be the case if the average age longevity in Gaza is better than parts of Britain, specifically Glasgow (in Gaza average life expectancy is 74.16 years).

Labour’s Lord Warner, who was chairing, explained that it was only since Israel’s blockade that there had been a rapid deterioration in child health in Gaza, therefore only in 10 to 15 years time will we truly see how far average life expectancy in Gaza has dropped as a result of the blockade.

I then asked how it was that there could be such a shortage of medicines considering the existence of the likes of Save The Children and UNRWA. Why would Israel block these medicines?

This time the blame was with Israel’s bureaucracy which meant that much of the medicine arrived out of date. Oh, and Israel kept only one crossing open (Kerem Shalom). Someone from the audience shouted that it was “all intentional”.

I also asked whether Egypt should take any  responsibility for Gaza, but was told that Egypt’s border with Gaza is closed at the request of Israel.

Hamas wasn’t mentioned once, except for when Lord Warner said that he didn’t believe it was full of terrorists.

Kerry Smith and Aimee Shalan then called for Israel to lift its blockade to enable free movement in and out of Gaza.

Should Israel heed this call it wouldn’t be long before it was burying many of its children blown up in Hamas and Islamic Jihad suicide bombings.

So just to recap Save The Children, United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), Hamas, Amnesty, War on Want, Egypt etc. have no responsibility whatsoever for Gaza.

All responsibility lies totally with Israel who should immediately open itself up to the risk of Palestinian suicide bombers.

But, then again, you knew that didn’t you….

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200 responses to “Save the children…except when they’re Israeli.

  1. I don’t know how you keep your temper with these people. After 2 weeks of rocketing from Gaza and the Sinai, I have yet to see anything like the kind of coverage the Egyptian elections and the fighting in Syria is receiving.

    As is so often said, dead (or just threatened) Jews, ain’t news. And that’s borne out by the reaction at your meeting last night.

    As always, well done Richard for having the doggedness to attend these depressing meetings. I’m off tonight to host a group of Israeli war disabled soldiers we bring over every year. We’re having supper and games at my shul where you spoke recently – if you’re free, pop in.

    • Daniel Marks

      I’m gratified to hear that Syria is in the news at all. With all my sympathy for the children of the South, who included my daughter until yesterday, it’s hard to compare their plight to the thousands being slaughtered in Syria.

      To think that our dream was once that our Arab neighbors would behave to us as they behave to each other.

  2. Get real Richard the main purpose of the blockade was to prevent Israeli’s being blown up by lentil bombs. Richard why did Israel forbid the entry of lentils into Gaza ?

    • Sharon Klaff

      It’s a pity Richard cannot see that your presence is stopping people making sensible contributions. If you had a point it might be worth debating with you, but you don’t. Why don’t you asked for a refund from all those universities that ill educated you!

      • Sharon what are you and Daniel [planning to do with the present Arab population of the west bank in your from the river to the sea Israel ?

      • Daniel Marks

        Hi Sharon,

        Might I humbly suggest you just ignore the idiot. It’s like getting used to a fly buzzing around you and really no big deal. Most of us have stopped paying attention to those “comments” ages ago.

  3. Come on Richard why ?

  4. ok I have just had the answer whispered in my ear. Apparently lentils are ideal material for building anti Israeli bomb bunkers. OK if only some one had told me this earlier

  5. It seems to me there are an awful lot of ridiculous conferences over nonsense in the U.K.

  6. Thanks Richard for asking those questions and publicising this. Many Jews donate to Save the children and they should know it uses propaganda to incite hatred solely against the Jewish State.

  7. bradbrzezinski

    rich: The Hamas govt. of Gaza has an annihilationist and antisemitic credo against Israel, backed by military action against it. It is standard military practice to apply a blockade against such an enemy when possible and Gaza is very vulnerable. The reason Hamas feels free to continue its aggressive approach is that it does not care about its people and it knows the west is awash in people like you who will kick up a fuss at the slightest Palestinian discomfort.

    Are lentils really banned, or were they? Blockade policies have been changing. Some were stupid and I would expect there to have been some bureaucratic bungling – as happens everywhere. Some bans are for reasons not immediately apparent; e.g. perhaps canned food was banned because the cans may be used in weapons manufacture.

    So what if Israel banned lentils? The people of Gaza were destined to suffering when their newly elected government refused to act in their interests. Israel has at least moved to lessen the deprivations of ordinary Gazans. (This may be contrasted with the deafness of say, the Syrian Government.) Why not address the legitimate reasons for a blockade that lie with Hamas, other terror groups and the P.A. who spent decades radicalising Pal. Arabs?

  8. At last. An admission

  9. “therefore only in 10 to 15 years time will we truly see how far average life expectancy in Gaza has dropped as a result of the blockade” and if in 15 years time we see (as we will do because even our “friends” at the Red Cross agree there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza with its swanky hotels and full supermarkets) that there has been no drop in life expectancy will Lord Warner apologise to Israel for this false accusation – I for one will not be holding my breath – we still haven’t received an aplogy from the BBC about the “Jenin Massacre” and they knew there had not been one just days after they published their blood libel.

    • richardmillett

      Good point. They cry “massacre” and “humanitarian disaster” without proof.
      Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

  10. Did anyone at the meeting – or here in the comments – mention the thousands upon thousands of tons of goods and medicines which the Israeli government transfers to Gaza every month? How on earth does this qualify as a blockade? Has a country under fire ever provided its ENEMY with goods and medicines?

    These pro-Palestinian “activists” (aka terror supporters) have an extremely dishonest agenda. In case anyone had any doubt.

    • richardmillett

      I agree with you but I didn’t get a chance to ask endless questions. All they would have answered is it’s not enough. They have an insubstantial answer ready for every question.

  11. just to get some balance here. check out Jeanette Friedman’s article on the rabbis deliberately covering up child abuse and domestic violence as well as the racist treatment of refugees in Israel today. She is a child of Holocaust survivors, an Orthodox Jew whose grandson is serving in the IDF, so for you guys she should have more credibility than yours truly.

    http://jeanettefriedman.com/

  12. Daniel Marks

    Roger,

    Yes, Mrs Friedman’s article “Did Jewish Values Die with the Six Million?” makes interesting reading, and she ought to know a thing or two because her grandson is serving in the IDF – pretty much like everyone I know over the age of 65. Tell me does that kind of thing earn a commentator extra credibility over there?

    What exactly is the nature of this cause-effect relationship of having a grandson in the IDF on the one hand and writing funny articles about Isaiah on the other? Did she have the same views about going to Zuccotti Park on Yom Kippur before he enlisted? In which case his army service is quite irrelevant, or was his joining the the IDF a catalyst that made her reexamine Judaism? It’s all a little beyond me.

    Maybe it’s the kind of subject that you discuss on those Muslim blogs and forums, you remember, the ones in which you challenge the theocratic nature of Muslim states such as Pakistan and the Yemen.

    http://richardmillett.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/mps-describe-palestinian-conditions-lebanon-call-boycott-israel/#comment-17020

    By the way, I was kind of hoping to read some of those interesting conversations, but have still received no direct links. I know that you’re very busy, but, any chance?

  13. 14,000 dead in Syria and where are the mass demonstrations at Trafalgar Square demanding a halt to the massacres in Syria?
    Oh. It’s Arabs killing Arabs. Never mind.
    Happy Nakba rich!

  14. stuff Israel has banned from Gaza at one time or another for ” security reasons ”
    lentils
    pasta
    tomato paste
    tomato juice
    soda
    jam
    spices
    shaving cream
    potato chips
    cookies
    candy
    milk products
    fruit
    ginger
    chocolate
    crayons
    stationary
    soccer balls
    musical instruments
    toilet paper
    batteries for hearing aids
    wheel chairs

    I could go on but I don’t want to bore you o)

    • bradbrzezinski

      Stuff Egypt is banning:
      http://tinyurl.com/7gjputw
      (Jews!)

    • Shaving cream? Who uses shaving cream in beards mandatory Hamasstan?

      Shaving cream to Hamasstan is as useful as a ham sandwich.

      • and what about women shaving their legs ???

        no idea whether in combination with the head scarf that is allowed but a visit to my supermarket’s cosmetic section tells me that all the really good instruments of torture suitable to removing women’s unwanted hairs are of Arabic origin.

  15. Daniel I have been waiting for weeks for your account of your plans for the present Arab occupants of the west bank in your river to Andromeda Israel. Any chance ?

  16. Listed below are the monthly statistics regarding delivery of Israeli humanitarian aid to Gaza since June 2010.

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    April 2012

    – 4,123 truckloads of goods were delivered from Israel to Gaza
    – 1,364 Gaza patients (and companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment

    March 2012

    – 3,653 truckloads of goods were delivered from Israel to Gaza
    – 1,375 Gaza patients (and companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment
    – More than 300 Rockets were fired from Gaza at Israel during this period. Around 30 people sustained injuries.

    February 2012

    – 4,003 truckloads of goods were delivered from Israel to Gaza
    – 1,326 Gaza patients (and companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment
    – 27 Rockets fired from Gaza struck Israeli territory during this period. There were no injuries reported.

    January 2012

    – 4,967 truckloads of goods were delivered from Israel to Gaza
    – 1,570 Gaza patients (and companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment
    – 10 Rockets and 8 mortars fired from Gaza struck targets in Israel during this period. No casualties were reported.

    December 2011

    – 4,569 truckloads of goods were delivered from Israel to Gaza
    – 1,289 Gaza patients (and companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment
    – 28 Rockets and 6 mortars fired from Gaza struck targets in Israel during this period. No casualties were reported.

    November 2011

    – 5,390 truckloads (149,165 tons) of goods, including 2,521 truckloads of food products, were delivered from Israel to Gaza.
    – 3,187 tons of cooking gas were delivered via the Kerem Shalom crossing
    – 1,336 Gaza residents (patients and companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.
    – 10 Rockets and 5 mortars were fired at Israel from inside Gaza during this period. No injuried were reported.

    October 2011

    – 3,875 truckloads (107,215 tons) of goods were delivered from Israel to Gaza.
    – 2,214 tons of cooking gas were delivered via the Kerem Shalom crossing
    – 1,022 Gaza residents (patients and companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.
    – 47 Rockets and 20 mortars were fired at Israel from inside Gaza during this period. One person was killed and at least 30 injuries were reported.

    September 2011

    – 4,945 truckloads (136,785 tons) of goods, including 1,503 truckloads of construction materials and 1,728 truckloads of food products.
    – 2,575 tons of cooking gas were delivered via the Kerem Shalom crossing
    – 1,522 Gaza residents (762 patients, 760 companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.
    – 3 Rockets and 1 mortar were fired at Israel from inside Gaza during this period. No injuries were reported.

    August 2011

    – 4,852 truckloads (126,813 tons) of goods, including 1,483 truckloads of construction materials and 42 truckloads of medicines and medical equipment.
    – 3,013 tons of cooking gas were delivered via the Kerem Shalom crossing
    – 1,127 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.
    – 150 Rockets and 51 mortars were fired at Israel from inside Gaza during this period. One person was killed and at least 23 injuries were reported.

    July 2011

    – 4,678 truckloads (120,598 tons) of goods, including 1,167 truckloads of construction materials and 26 truckloads of medicines and medical equipment.
    – 3,010 tons of cooking gas were delivered via the Kerem Shalom crossing
    – 1,516 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.
    – 16 Rockets and 1 mortar was fired at Israel from inside Gaza during this period. There were no casualties reported.

    June 2011

    – 4,750 truckloads (118,956 tons) of goods, including 1,092 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip.
    – 2,678 tons of cooking gas were delivered via the Kerem Shalom crossing
    – 1,404 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.
    – 222,000 liters of diesel fuel for transportation and 35,000 liters of gasoline were delivered.
    – 3 Rockets were fired at Israel from inside Gaza during this period. There were no casualties reported.

    May 23-31, 2011

    – 1248 truckloads (34,012 tons) of goods, including 340 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip.
    – 1 truckload of flowers was exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 826 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 434 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    May 15-22, 2011

    – 1331 truckloads (36,127 tons) of goods, including 300 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip.
    – 1 truckload of flowers was exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 826 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 373 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    April 24-30, 2011
    On April 25, there was no activity due to the Passover holiday.
    – 846 truckloads (20,026 tons) of goods, including 72 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip.
    – 1 truckload of flowers was exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 684 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 275 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    March 27-31, 2011
    – 1183 truckloads (33,939 tons) of goods, including 312 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip.
    – 3 truckloads of flowers were exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 1024 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 356 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    March 20-26, 2011
    – 1409 truckloads (42,820 tons) of goods, including 425 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip.
    – 8 truckloads of flowers were exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 823 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 374 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings 13-19 Mar 2011
    After repeated attacks on the Karni Crossing from the direction of Gaza, the crossing was closed and Sufa Crossing was reopened to take its place for delivering aggregates.
    – 1572 truckloads (45,211 tons) of goods, including 474 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip.
    – 6 truckloads of flowers were exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 151,007 liters of diesel fuel and 38,000 liters of gasoline and 1039 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 395 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings 27 Feb-4 Mar 2011
    – 1064 truckloads (26,898 tons) of goods, including 203 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip.
    – 7 truckloads of flowers and 2 truckloads of cherry tomatoes were exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 914 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 388 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings 20-26 Feb 2011
    – 1113 truckloads (25,456 tons) of goods, including 266 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip.
    – 7 truckloads of flowers were exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 691 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 401 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings 13-18 Feb 2011
    – 1087 truckloads (28,788 tons) of goods, including 295 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip.
    – 4 truckloads of strawberries, and 6 truckloads of flowers were exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 576 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 385 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings 6-12 Feb 2011
    – 965 truckloads (23,534 tons) of goods, including 174 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip.
    – 14 truckloads of strawberries, and 8 truckloads of flowers were exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 40,007 liters of gasoline and 127,810 liters of diesel fuel for transportation were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 293 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 261 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings 30 Jan – 5 Feb 2011
    – 1103 truckloads (32,663 tons) of goods, including 236 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip.
    – 17 truckloads of strawberries, and 7 truckloads of flowers were exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 45,000 liters of gasoline and 35,000 liters of diesel fuel for transportation were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 619 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 300 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings 23-28 Jan 2011
    – 1044 truckloads (27,705 tons) of goods, including 37 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip.
    – 15 truckloads of strawberries, 1 truckload of bell peppers and 8 truckloads of flowers were exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 39,400 liters of gasoline and 251,795 liters of diesel fuel for transportation were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 422 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 296 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings 9-15 Jan 2011
    – 950 truckloads (23,793 tons) of goods, including 292 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip.
    – 19 truckloads of strawberries and 7 truckloads of flowers were exported from the Gaza Strip.
    As of the second week in January 2011, the Palestinian Authority stopped ordering heavy diesel fuel for the power station.
    – Heavy diesel fuel for the power plant was delivered via Egypt and not via Israel.
    – 756 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 294 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings 2-8 Jan 2011
    – 933 truckloads (22,403 tons) of goods, including 31 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip.
    – 25 truckloads of strawberries and 4 truckloads of flowers were exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 719,967 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, and 698 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 290 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings 26-31 Dec. 2010
    – 1051 truckloads (25,026 tons) of goods, including 37 truckloads of construction materials, were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 30 truckloads of strawberries, 3 of flowers, and 1 of bell peppers were exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 804,956 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, and 621 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 298 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings 19-25 Dec. 2010
    – 1047 truckloads (24,381 tons) of goods, including 81 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip.
    – 26 truckloads, mostly strawberries and also some flowers, were exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 853,526 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, and 544 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 280 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings 12-18 Dec. 2010
    – 910 truckloads (22,167 tons) of goods, including 180 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip (Kerem Shalom was closed early on Sunday due to the weather).
    – 6 truckloads of strawberries and flowers were exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 909,664 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, 135,020 liters of diesel for transportation, and 457 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 263 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings 5-10 December 2010
    – 922 truckloads (21,756 tons) of goods, including 50 truckloads of construction materials, were delivered to the Gaza Strip (Karni was closed part of the day Monday, due to shooting at an IDF force there).
    -18 truckloads of strawberries and flowers were exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 1,619,986 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, and 688 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 324 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 28 Nov – 3 Dec 2010
    – 1083 truckloads (26,167 tons) of goods, including 196 truckloads of construction materials, were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 4 truckloads of strawberries and flowers were exported from the Gaza Strip.
    – 1,229,943 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, 29,241 liters of diesel for transportation, 47,750 liters of gasoline, and 547 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 303 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 21-27 Nov. 2010
    – 1040 truckloads (25,303 tons) of goods, including 176 truckloads of construction materials, were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 1,165,438 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, 36,500 liters of gasoline, and 546 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 293 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 14-20 Nov. 2010
    – 561 truckloads (15,320 tons) of goods, including 120 truckloads of construction materials, were transferred to the Gaza Strip. There was less activity than usual this week due to the Eid el-Adha holiday.
    – 1,236,904 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, 43,000 liters of gasoline, and 452 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 164 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 7-13 Nov. 2010
    – 1105 truckloads (25,108 tons) of goods, were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 1,757,891 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, 34,500 liters of gasoline, and 678 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 315 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 31 Oct – 6 Nov 2010
    – 970 truckloads (21,042 tons) of goods, were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 1,342,534 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, and 339 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 202 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 24-30 Oct. 2010
    – 1017 truckloads (22,742 tons) of goods, were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 1,995,511 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, 100,000 liters of gasoline for UNRWA, and 691 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 344 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 17-23 Oct. 2010
    – 1083 truckloads (23,036 tons) of goods, were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 1,876,878 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, and 825 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 243 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 10-16 Oct. 2010
    – 991 truckloads (18,232 tons) of goods, were transferred to the Gaza Strip. (Due to technical difficulties, 73% less goods than usual were transferred via Karni crossing.)
    – 1,710,573 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, 270,005 liters of diesel fuel and 29,499 liters of gasoline for UNRWA, and 800 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 284 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 3-9 Oct. 2010
    – 1005 truckloads (22,022 tons) of goods, were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 2,193,559 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, 49,000 liters of gasoline, and 853 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 366 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    3-wk. summary of the Gaza crossings: 12Sep-1 Oct.2010 (including Yom Kippur and the week-long Succot festival)
    – 2166 truckloads (46,689 tons) of goods, were transferred to the Gaza Strip. In addition to food and clothing, construction materials continue to arrive.
    – 5,173,598 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, and 2055 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 649 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 5-11 Sept.2010 (including the 2-day Jewish New Year festival)
    – 823 truckloads (18,968 tons) of goods, were transferred to the Gaza Strip. These included building materials: Ceramics, iron, aluminum, wood, and plumbing.
    – 1,898,029 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, and 585 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 178 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 29Aug-4Sept. 2010
    – 1080 truckloads (24,711 tons) of goods, were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 1,004,483 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, 250,750 liters of diesel fuel for transportation (UNRWA), and 656 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 311 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 22-28 August 2010
    – 1074 truckloads (24,288) of goods, were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 1,697,598 liters of heavy-duty diesel fuel for the Gaza power station, and 743 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 246 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 15-21 August 2010
    – 1,055 truckloads (22,849) of goods, were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 951,251 liters of heavy-duty diesel fuel for the Gaza power station, and 741 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 255 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 8-14 August 2010
    – 1134 truckloads (25,741 tons) of goods, were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 1,123,475 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, 211,999 liters of diesel fuel and 44,750 liters of gasoline for transportation (UNRWA), and 880 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 310 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 1-5 August 2010
    – 1166 truckloads (23,297 tons) of goods, were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 806,006 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, 34,999 liters of gasoline for transportation, and 667 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 324 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Monthly summary: July 2010

    Following the Cabinet’s decision to expand civilian activities in the Gaza Strip, the capacity of the Kerem Shalom crossing was increased; 31 new projects were approved, of which 17 are USAID projects; a joint COGAT-PA team was established in order to promote projects that are funded and supervised by the international community.

    During the month there was an increase of 19% in the volume of truckloads entering the Gaza strip. Overall, 3,665 truckloads entered the Gaza Strip through the Kerem Shalom crossing and the Karni conveyor.

    – 4,140,046 liters of Heavy Duty Diesel, 3,230 tons of Cooking Gas, 76,438 liters of Gasoline and 345,646 of Diesel fuel were transferred to the Gaza Strip.

    – During July the equipment from the Libyan flotilla was transferred into Gaza (73 truckloads). Also, the transfer of equipment and items from the Turkish flotilla continued (88 truckloads).

    – 2,338 Palestinians entered Israel, the West Bank and abroad, including 161 Palestinian businessmen, and 924 international staff members entered\exited the Gaza Strip.

    During July, several high-ranking members of the international community visited the Gaza strip, among them the High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, Mrs. Catherine Ashton, and 62 other diplomatic delegations.

    Projects implementation
    The transfer of equipment for approved projects in the Gaza strip has continued:
    The rehabilitation of Al- Quds hospital (AFD); 151 housing units in Khan Unis (UNRWA); Greenhouses (USAID); Agricultural Family Plots (USAID).

    Humanitarian Infrastructure
    – During the month the supply of electricity and water from Israel was maintained.
    – In July, 4,140,046 liters of diesel fuel for the power plant were transferred according to PA’s requests (increase of 19.6% in comparison to June);3,230 tons of cooking gas; 76,438 liters of gasoline and 345,646 liters of diesel fuel for transportation were transferred into the Gaza strip.
    -Two truckloads of equipment for the water authority were delivered as requested by the PWA. 14 truckloads of equipment and spare parts were delivered to the Palestinian Energy Authority.

    Movements and Permits
    2,338 Palestinians exited the Gaza Strip through Erez crossing.
    Overall 2,457 permits were issued for Palestinians to cross through Erez:
    o 1,509 permits for 764 patients and 745 companions, to receive medical treatment in Israel, the West Bank and abroad.
    o 8 permits were issued for embassy visa interviews.
    o 3 permits were issued for the attendance of medical seminars.
    o 178 permits were issued to travel abroad.
    161 businessmen (BMC holders) exited the Gaza Strip.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 25-31 July 2010
    – 874 truckloads (19,435 tons) of goods, were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 984,140 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, and 753 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 299 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 18-22 July 2010
    – 995 truckloads (22,526 tons) of goods, including 27 trucks carrying 797 heads of cattle, and furniture were delivered to the Gaza Strip. This also includes 5 truckloads of goods from the Turkish flotilla and 73 truckloads of food from the Libyan ship (that arrived via Egypt).
    – Thirty-five trucks delivered 1400 tons of aggregates to the Palestinian side of Kerem Shalom for construction work being done there to expand the capacity of the crossing.
    – 827,251 liters of heavy diesel fuel for the Gaza power station, 95,000 liters of gasoline for transportation, and 761 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 358 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 11-17 July 2010
    – 928 truckloads (20,739 tons) of goods, including 40 trucks of cattle, were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
    – 1,175,333 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station, 250,646 liters of diesel fuel and 76,438 liters of gasoline for transportation, 275,544 liters of diesel fuel for heating and 948 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 326 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 4-10 July 2010
    – 769 truckloads (16,051 tons) of goods were transferred to the Gaza Strip. Among the goods were mattresses, paint, and electrical appliances – washing machines, ovens and refrigeraters.
    – 892,403 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station and 935 tons of cooking gas were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 372 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 27June-3July 2010
    – 797 truckloads (17,850 tons) of goods were transferred to the Gaza Strip. Among the goods were school supplies, cosmetics, toys, housewares, and aluminum, glass and wood for construction projects.
    – 906,973 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station and 931 tons of cooking gas, in addition to 84,000 liters of gasoline, were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 337 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossing.

    Weekly summary of the Gaza crossings: 20-26 June 2010
    – 652 truckloads (14,110 tons) of goods were transferred to the Gaza Strip. Among the goods were school supplies, candy, toys, blankets, curtains, towels, and glass and wood for construction projects.
    – 591,807 liters of heavy-duty diesel for the Gaza power station and 984 tons of cooking gas, in addition to 36,000 liters of gasoline for UNRWA, were delivered via Kerem Shalom crossing.
    – 276 Gaza residents (patients and their companions) entered Israel for medical treatment via Erez Crossin

    • so with all that Israel may as well just annexe Gaza and do the real thing….. and give them freedom of movement, citizenship and rights. Then it would truly be a multicultural democracy, but of course, that would mean the end of the ‘Jewish’ state. It would be another kind of state with quite a lot of Jews in it.

    • Norman you might have saved some bandwidth and just provided a url.

  17. And your point is ?

  18. Now that’s what I call a blockade!

  19. Nice post.

    “How many reports on exactly the same subject do we need?”
    If some of the allegations in these reports are true, then we need as many as it takes to stop some of the alleged stuff happening. I expect you didn’t mean that sentence to come across as heartless as it did.

    “The main problem with Bound, Blindfolded & Convicted is that all the testimony was taken anonymously.”
    That is standard procedure for reports like this involving children. I take your point, though.

    Loving your posts, anyway. Hats off to you.

    • Question:

      why are Palestinian “militants” considered to be children up to the age of 18 while the age limit for child soldiers to qualify as children hovers somewhere around 15?

    • I know what you mean Goy. So long as you people get to talk among your selves and stroke each other, Israel is safe.

  20. I see…..

  21. So just to recap Save The Children, United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), Hamas, Amnesty, War on Want, Egypt etc. have no responsibility whatsoever for Gaza.

    All responsibility lies totally with Israel who should immediately open itself up to the risk of Palestinian suicide bombers.

    So basically turning Gaza in a massive open air prison is justified because of the off-chance of a suicide bomber? Don’t you get tired of your own platitudes?

    Soon Iron Dome will be completed, thanks once again to a bit of extra largesse from the ‘Jew-hatin’ Obama’ (I mean does he really, I mean really, really LOVE Israel??? ;-)), yet the largely fake ‘National security concerns’ will continue to be touted as a justification for anything. 45 years of occupation? ‘National Security, Sirreeeh!’ And child believe it…

    And like rich, I’d like to ask the question: ‘what is to become of these West Bank Palestinians once colonisation of that territory is complete? Sorry: when 100 % National Security needs have been met?’

    rich, did you know our Richard here does not consider himself a Zionist?

    • ever heard of sharing Norm? That’s what makes life beautiful.

      • richardmillett

        Hey Roger,
        will you be campaigning for the UK to open up our borders to anyone and everyone?

      • Yeah im not scared of lentils and pasta. Let em in I say

      • We already do with 1.5 million Arabs who are full citizens of our country. How many Jews will be allowed to live in a Palestinian State let be citizens of it?

      • it already has….as has the rest of Europe….. but for the wrong reasons. Neo-Marxist multiculturalism……and the results will be disastrous……Eurabia.
        But it’s not a fair analogy. The immigrants to the UK are from foreign countries. The Gazans are indigeneous so would not technically be immigrants. It’s all one land down there…and two so-called ersatz ‘peoples’. It’s just that one of those ersatz ‘peoples’ has got the upperhand and most of the land. That’s how the cookie crumbles in this Darwinian planet full of catastrophic primordial tribalism. Given the bitterness and resentment of the ‘people’ on the losing wicket, Israel will inevitably have to reap what it has sown.

      • richardmillett

        Roger, you’re comments are most offensive I have to say. Reap what it has sown? You want them murdered is that what you’re suggesting? Really, your comments are those of a vile Israel-hater. Your comments about anti-Semitism were shocking. Jews need anti-Semitism? Really? You should be ashamed.

      • you know the more I look at this situation the more the one- state solution makes sense…but it would mean a massive paradigm shift for the Israeli Jews.
        The 2-state solution won’t work..the Palestinian state would be a breeding ground for the jihadists and war would be a matter of course.

      • Richard have you noticed how it’s always Israel that has give up something. The Palestinians are not told they must share their state with the Jews like the Jews are told they must share their state with the Arabs – we do anyway. The Palestinians are not told they must make sacrifices for peace – they make sacrifices for terrorism instead.

      • You’re misunderstanding my comments Richard and coming at me with knee-jerk reactions. When I say reap what they sow, I don’t mean all lie down and die!! Did I say I want them murdered? Chill out! I mean they have to face the fact that conflict is inevitable, and they will be on the receiving end of hatred and animosity for simply being where they are, and as long as they are occupying someone else’s land. They need to understand the impact the mass immigration of Ashkenazi Jews has had on the indigeneous Arabs. (Mizrahi Jews have a better relationship with the Arabs because they are semites too.) This is not offensive. Many Israelis feel very uncomfortable about the situation.
        And my comments about antisemitism are probably shocking to you because you’ve never heard those observations before. Can you separate antisemitism from the concept of a ‘Jewish people’? It’s been an intrinsic part of the story of the Jewish people from the very start. Passover, Purim, Sukkot, Tisha Ba’av, Sukkot—-all memorialise antisemitic persecution and celebrate survival and empowerment. It is wrapped up in the identity, especially in Israel. I am just trying to understand the complex psychology of what I regard as an irrational stance taken by many Israeli…mainly religious…Jews I have encountered.

      • richardmillett

        Honestly, your comments are so ignorant, but then I don’t expect anymore from someone who thinks Jews need anti-Semitism.
        Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

      • according to Yaacov Lozowick and all the MENA Jews I’ve “met” over the years on blogs they are accusing the “Ashkenazis” of being starry eyed when it comes to Jews while they are the realists based on ages of experience with a certain unwillingness and/or inability to compromise.

        Plus a question: Haven’t I read somewhere that UK-Jews are mostly Sephardi and that that is different from Ashkenazi?

        Oh and here is a latest example from Yaacov where he remarks on a MENA-Jew’s view:

        Syrian-born Eliyahu Sasson, one of only two non-Ashkenazi ministers and the only one who explicitly grounded his position in a life-long acquaintance with Arab culture, insisted that since no Arab government would make peace with Israel, the Golan and Sinai should be returned for something less than full diplomatic peace.

        http://yaacovlozowick.blogspot.de/2012/06/19th-june-1967-israels-peace-plan.html

      • Let’s see your boys share Mecca with all people. Make it an Open, Multicultural city, like London.

      • Sharon Klaff

        MMJPCC Make Mecca the Jewish Palestinian Capital City

    • Except of course once nearly all of it WAS theirs. Until colonialists like you showed up. With a decree from the Almighty.

      Funnily enough, you lot will always be immigrants: you always look to the West, never to the East (from whence you claim to come) and where would you be w/o your umbilical cord to the US, huh?

      I heard an American Zionist numskull describe Israel as a ‘plucky independent country’. Independent? Pfwoar!

      • Ignorance as displayed by you is bliss. I pray you remain in bliss for the rest of your life I certainly have no intention of wasting any of the precious time allotted to me in showing you the error of your ways. However
        “Our settlers do not come here as do the colonists from the Occident to have natives do their work for them; they themselves set their shoulders to the plow and they spend their strength and their blood to make the land fruitful. But it is not only for ourselves that we desire its fertility. The Jewish farmers have begun to teach their brothers, the Arab farmers, to cultivate the land more intensively; we desire to teach them further: together with them we want to cultivate the land—to ‘serve’ it, as the Hebrew has it. The more fertile this soil becomes, the more space there will be for us and for them. We have no desire to dispossess them: we want to live with them.”
        — Martin Buber

      • Interesting that you quote Buber. He started off as a Zionist, then became disenchanted and pursued a strong advocacy of peaceful co-existence and the I or 2-state solution. He was one of the founders of Brit Shalom in 1925 a group that wanted peaceful coexistence between Arabs and Jews and renounced Zionism. peace Now’s predecessor. If he were around now, you would regard him as a deluded left-wing self-hating Jew.

      • richardmillett

        Oh yes, that huge organisation Peace Now. Wow, you don’t half pick’em. Just admit it, Roger, you cannot bear the thought of there being a Jewish state.

      • Richard I have no time for Peace Now..they are clueless dhimmi idiots. Why do you misinterpret everything I write? And I didn’t say ALL Jews need antisemitism.

      • Sharon Klaff

        Racist

      • Racist? Don’t be ridiculous. The Jews are not a race. You come across just like the Muslims who cry Islamophobia when confronted with criticism of their nasty ideology.

      • richardmillett

        Funny how Jews have certain prominent features. What a coincidence.
        Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

      • Richard: Are you seriously stating that Jews are a race? It was that idea which was promulgated by the Nazis. Do you look like an Ethiopean? A Jew from Cochin, Shanghai, Iraq, Yemen etc etc etc. Do you share the same DNA with the other 100 ethnicities that follow Judaism?

      • richardmillett

        I repeat, why do Jews have similar features? Tests, I believe, have also proved a connection, so, yes, Jews are a race who are connected to the Land of Israel, where they lived before the expulsions. As for Iraqi and Yemenite Jews you are now talking Sephardim who will look different from Ashkenazim for obvious reasons.

      • Those DNA studies have been discredited by genetic scientists in Israel itself. They were skewed and self-fulfilling.
        To be really rigorous about this, the only Jews who have a historical ( putting aside Resolution 181 for a moment) right to live in the region are those who can demonstrably prove that they have a genetic and biological connection to the ancient Judeans.
        Sephardim means Spanish in Hebrew..they are Jews from the Iberian peninsula. The Arab Jews/Jewish Arabs…the real semites…are called Mizrahim.
        Your argument could also be applied like this: the 50 million Muslims in China have a right to invade and occupy the Arabian Peninsula and claim that it is their land because as Muslims they are descendants of Mohammed’s tribe. The same goes for all the non-Arab converts to Islam throughout the world. I don’t think the Arabs would be too pleased about that notion. The same logic applies to non-semitic Jews who are not indigeneous to the Levant (nice neutral name that one), which means not just the Ashkenazis but other ethnicities now living there who immigrated from completely different locations and cultures, and who are not the descendants of expelled/not expelled Judeans.
        There is not a Jewish race Richard. Have you been to Israel? There are more than 80 ethnicities there. Many naive American and other Ashkenazi Jews who made and make aliya to Israel have been shocked…and indeed a bit depressed…. when they see who is actually living there. Not everyone looks like them. There are so many different races. And It is often impossible to distinguish between Mizrahi Jews and Arabs. To say that an Ultra-Orthodox Jew from Brooklyn and an Ethiopean Jew are of the same race is patently absurd. Sorry mate. Why are you so threatened by all this? It is an ongoing topic of discussion amongst Israelis themselves and they don’t jump on me like you do. It is the religion that binds people there, as well as this new identity, Israeli nationality, which is something else again.

      • richardmillett

        Ok, well everyone’s been discredited then, including Shlomo Sand btw. The fact is Israel exists as of right. All the rest is just polemics.
        Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

      • True.
        And it’s an amazing, complex and very problematic country. There’s a whole lot of trouble there that’s going to get worse and I’m just trying to understand it.

      • richardmillett

        Roger, it’s no more problematic than Britain. Been reading the papers recently about the bankers? Remember last year’s riots? What about carers who are students who get no support looking after their loved ones? I could go on and on and on.

      • It’s very hot here…and you probably need a break too Richard. But I have to say that the last time I looked in the UK, not every 18-year old babe is walking around with an M16 over her shoulder.
        Have a nice evening over in Blighty!

      • richardmillett

        I agree. We have other big problems here, including Islamists constantly trying to blow us up and IRA offshoots carrying on the fight after the IRA murdered thousands of innocents. Then we had the Falklands War and we are still on alert there. All countries have there problems. Enjoy Israel. I wish I could get there.

      • richardmillett

        Then of course we’ve lost hundreds of British soldiers in Afghanistan. They’re still coming home in coffins and with their limbs blown off. But that doesn’t seem to count in Rogerworld as Roger just wants to understand Israel….

      • M16’s, as necessary as checkpoints at every airport in the world.
        Happy Nakba roger!

  22. Daniel Marks

    Hi Norman,
    On behalf of myself, Gert, and many other regular readers of this excellent blog, we applaud your endeavors for what must have been the grueling and thankless task of compiling and analyzing these important statistics.

    By way of clarification, you report that during the weekly of 28 Nov – 3 Dec 2010, four truckloads of strawberries and flowers were exported from the Gaza Strip. Would that be four of strawberries and four of flowers, two of each or four trucks each containing a certain amount of strawberries and a certain amount of flowers?

  23. Well Daniel I see you have met Jose. Now you know how to keep an obsessive busy Mention lentils.

  24. I know you are not Daniel Marks because he would not have written “weekly of ” instead of “week of” so who are you?

    • Daniel Marks

      Hi Norman,

      Unfortunately, I am Daniel Marks alright. I’m the same Daniel Marks who made a characteristic mistake in my English grammar. Guess I’ve been away from that green and promised land too long. If you want to know why it’s probably too much cutting, pasting and not reading over comments before pressing the “Post Comment” button. Sometimes I push it and as I’m releasing it I see an “it’s” instead of “its” or “there” in place of “their”.

      I have a truly excellent editor in Raanana who generally catches most of my mistakes. Sadly, however, her job description does not include checking my blog comments.

      I keep meaning to come to those early morning supplications at MA, but never get up early enough. If you like, come Friday to NA at 5:50, there’s coffee and cake and I give a micro-shiur. Then we can clear up the Strawberry-Flowers question once and for all.

    • Norm: are you an ex-Mossad operative?

  25. 5.50 Baboker? MA is 6 30 on Friday I like my late morning! You also used the US spelling for grueling which made me suspicious.
    BTW regards from Thelma she dropped in to see my wife who is recuperating from an operation. I’d take up the strawberries with the Jewish Virtual Library =http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/weeklygazaaid.html from whence I cut and pasted.
    We don’t eat strawberries ourselves seems according to my son’s Rav there is no effective way to get rid of the tolaim. Same problem Richard has on this website!

  26. roger

    where are those comments of yours about Pakistan et al that you mentioned in the other thread?

    Do you think your claim to being such an example of bipartisanship is forgotten because this is a new thread?

    • Daniel Marks

      Hi Silke,

      I believe that it is Roger’s hope that those lies have been forgotten, so that he can casually move onto a new lot of old codswallop.

      Hi Richard,

      In Roger’s defense, after being exposed for the phony and scoundrel that he is, he just lost it a bit and began firing in all directions until he finally shot himself in the leg. He is now trying hard to cool down and refocus on the good old, “Do you want a one state or two state solution?” claptrap.

      Hi Roger,

      Any progress with those links?

      Hi Norman,

      I know that many other Orthodox Jews and rabbis have expressed similar sentiments, but I’ve never grasped their logic regarding strawberries. I’m sure you know the story of Rabbi Shneur Zalman Auerbach being shown fruit with microscopic organisms under a microscope and being asked whether such “insects” made the fruit non-kosher and he said that they didn’t. I always thought that kashrut is based upon what the human eye perceives. I believe in the same instance the rabbi said that Torah wasn’t given to heavenly angels, but to man.

      As I wrote this comment I thought I’d better quickly Google the subject and check that I’m not completely off the mark. My first hit was Rabbi Amar agreeing with me for similar reasons. Those banning strawberries were Satmar and I’m guessing that you do not accept their rulings on other matters:
      http://www.vosizneias.com/31892/2009/05/17/jerusalem-rav-amar-strawberries-kosher-and-may-be-eaten/

      I know that there are many who say that if I want to be more strict with myself, why not? But I’m not sure there isn’t an issue of:
      “So be careful to obey all the commands I give you. You must not add anything to them or subtract anything from them.”

      This adding of artificial prohibitions in Judaism is in my opinion problematic for many reasons. We all know that G-d commanded Adam not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge, but he didn’t trust Eve so he told her not to touch it either or she’s die. The Midrash explains how the serpent pushed Eve against the tree and when nothing happened she decided that everything Adam had told her was nonsense and ate the fruit. The point being that sometimes more is less.

      Anyway, it makes a change to discuss Judaism on this excellent blog and I thank Richard for the opportunity to meet one of my neighbors here. What a blessing that our city is so big that two ex-Anglos living here have never even met.

      G-d bless Maale Adumim!

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  28. Daniel
    May I direct your attention to this website
    http://www.newcomersguideisrael.com/guide.aspx?page=bugs
    They talk about strawberries.

  29. Oh and do you know why Turkey is not making such a fuss about the plane the Syrians shot down: Omran al-Zubi (Syrian Minister) says Friday’s downing of an F-4 was a mistake, and that Israeli planes are ‘welcomed by fire’“Turkish planes and Israeli planes look alike,” the minister told the Turkish news station A Haber.
    Although the Turkish and Israeli air forces both purchased McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom fighter jets from the United States, the IAF decommissioned its last F-4 in 2004.

    Obviously it’s the Jews what dunnit innit?

  30. Daniel Marks

    Hi Norman,

    I read the Haredi site, which offered two different ways of eating strawberries.

    Don’t forget that man in the future must give account for everything his eyes saw, but he didn’t eat:

    “עתיד אדם ליתן את הדין על מה שראו עיניו ולא אכל”

    That includes strawberries!

  31. ” Norman ” is nuts.. The perfect mate for Daniel. Imagine them holding hands and strolling off in to the nuclear sunset.

  32. Edgar Davidson

    Save the Children have a long history of obsessive anti-Semitism. Take a look at the correspondence here:

    http://edgar1981.blogspot.co.uk/2009/01/letter-to-hypocrites-of-save-children.html

  33. The Save the Children report should not come as a surprise to any who, like me, took the trouble to read all 46 pages and not just the summary. The methodology of the Report is exactly like that adopted by Richard Goldstone and his colleagues, without the saving grace that Goldstone did offer to hear very limited evidence presented by Israeli or pro-Israeli sources. Virtually all 139 references in the Report have their source in Palestinian organisations, official and NGO, as well as UN agencies ( OCHAoPT, UNRWA, EWASH and the like) slanted or possibly even subordinate to the Palestinian interests. Even the medical reports have been carefully selected from the Lancet’s ongoing series dealing with health issues in the occupied territories. Because of the built-in bias and the absence of independent data from non-partisan sources, the Report is, as expected, condemnatory of Israel, to the exclusion of any other body.

    Richard Millett – or any other person – attending the meeting would have had little chance of bringing contradictory material, though there is plenty which could be used to discredit the Report.

    • YYYYAAAAAAWWWWWWNNN

      • Sorry for boring you with my posting but it is difficult to cater for such as yourself and spell out what I wrote in words of only two or three letters and even more limited punctuation.

      • rich, I recommend you take a few sleeping pills to help you sleep.
        Make that a full bottle of sleeping pills.
        Sweet Dreams and Happy Nakba!

    • Don’t worry about it

  34. In reply to Silke’s question: the first Jews to return (after the expulsion of 1290) to Britain in the mid-17th century were Sephardim from the Netherlands. Ashkenazim started to arrive around 1700 and overtook the Sephardim in numbers during the following century. Since the mass emigration of Russian & Austro-Hungarian Jews 1881-1914, Ashkenazi Jews have outnumbered Sephardim in Britain ten to one or more.

  35. “Most of us have stopped paying attention to those “comments” ages ago.”

    So who exactly is in your gang baby Daniel ? o))

    • This is worth listening to. Notice at 7:10 that the Palestinian makes an interesting and valid point about being descended from Jews who were forced to convert to Islam, but then the Orthodox Jew talks over him and refuses to engage with what he is saying. He fobs him off with some spurious claptrap, passing it off as truth, about Bedoiun nomads. He is in denial. And he’s telling the Arab to be good!!!

      • Daniel Marks

        Note at 7:40 exactly the Palestinian confirms what the Haredi Jew says as being correct on that exact point.

        Without getting into the exact point he makes, especially those regarding economics, he seems intelligent and quite articulate.

        I have no doubt that there are shallow bigots who will discount whatever he says because of the length of his beard, his clothes and his most unforgivable sin of believing that the heavens are not empty.

      • richardmillett

        Got it! Roger is trying to tell us that the Jews aren’t the real Jews, but that the Palestinians are the real Jews and that the non-real Jews need anti-Semitism to reinforce their (non) Jewishness! Is that correct Roger?

      • whatever. It is obvious that some of the Palestinians are Jews…meaning descendants of the ancient Judeans. Unlike the American descendant of Eastern European Slav/Khazar gentile converts. One thing I do know. The semite in this dialogue has a real connection with the land in question ….the Brooklyn Ashkenazi dude is an immigrant interloper driven by promordial tribalism and mythmaking.

      • richardmillett

        Roger, there’s only one myth maker. You! you’ve obviously read someone like shlomo sand and loved it and thought let’s come here and have a bit of Jew baiting. Why don’t you just go and join the PSC? They’d love you.

      • Having said that…and just to confuse you further Richard……after reading this report, I am on the side of the evicted Ulpana families whose houses were LEGAL and built with the aid of government money, and not built on private Palestinian land, and I’m disgusted by Oppenheimer’s criticism of a man who is still grieving for his murdered family.

      • Here’s a comment under the Arutz Sheva report.
        ”Oppenheimer should go to Germany – the land of his father”

        Now what does THAT mean? I understand that Oppenheimer is a Jew who is therefore descended from the ancient Judeans. ‘david’…who wrote the comment…..seems to be forgetting that.

      • Richard….I’ve read a lot of books on this subject….exploring the perspective from both sides…. and will continue to so. what’s your problem with Shlomo Sand? He’s a competent and impeccable scholar who researches thoroughly and presents his findings and hypotheses (not opinions) in a balanced manner. Have you read his books? I did find ‘The Invention of the Israeli people’ fascinating but a little turgid and academic, overloaded with footnotes and references. But it’s a scholastic work. More so than Koestler’s ‘Thirteenth Tribe’. What bothers you about it?

      • richardmillett

        Seriously, Roger, go somewhere else. Bait other people. Please leave me alone. Cheers.

  36. Norman Cohen

    Roger the point being that Israelis and Palestinians can interact in a Jewish Community as they do where I live. Any Jew who tried to interact with Palestinians in an Arab Community would be lucky to escape with their lives.

    • True. That’s because the Arabs are angry.

      • Infidels are angry too. It’s a 9/11 thing. But you wouldn’t understand.
        Happy Nakba!

      • Daniel Marks

        Roger,

        Ye, good point. Being angry is a decent enough reason to strap sticks of dynamite to the little ones and have them detonate themselves to death on a Zionist bus.

        We all get angry sometimes, different people for different reasons. My wife usually shouts, I’m more inclined to sulk. Rachelle, still a teenager, often walks out and slams the door behind her. So who are we to determine that sending your child off as a Shahid, to kill and be killed, is a less legitimate way of dealing with anger management issues?

        By the way, Roger. You probably don’t remember, but a week ago I asked you why you condemn Israel as a theocratic regime, but limit your criticism to the one Jewish State to the exclusion of Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc. You assured me that you are not the ignorant bigot that I had implied and that you have much to say about other theocracies on “Islamic forums and blogs”.

        I asked you to provide some direct links to these comments you had made, but am still waiting. I know that you’re probably a busy fellow, but whenever you get the chance.

      • Daniel: I’ve decided to help you sleep well tonight and help ameliorate your obsessive fixation on my personality and morals.
        So here goes. I am an ignorant bigot, and an irrational Israel bashing Jew hater.
        Happy? feel better now? Nice and comfortable on your self-regarding moral high ground?
        I can understand why your daughter slams the door. She has all my sympathy.
        Sleep well bro.

      • Daniel Marks

        Now you’ve got all that off your chest, any chance of you posting those links?

      • Daniel

        by now I think we should extend the query into roger’s claims to the books he has read. He claims to have read widely but besides mentioning Shlomo Sand here and there is not really forthcoming.

        I am pretty convinced that his claim to being widely read is as empty as was his claim to having made comments.

        BTW under his Gravatar image it says bosdike – when asked the meaning of that word, Google comes up with something Hindu and not really appropriate for somebody who is trusted with educating the minds of children.

  37. roger

    Richard….I’ve read a lot of books on this subject….exploring the perspective from both sides…. and will continue to so.

    as many comments as you posted which nobody including yourself can locate????

    What makes you think that a proven liar can still get away with statements like that?

    What you do is putting on the contrarian’s head and bait, bait, bait.

    You are a slanderer. And don’t give me the I love Israel-story again. Real life is full of lovers who take to slander whenever the beloved proved to be less than perfect.

  38. Ben omonoyan

    The international community need to have comprehensive realistic working approches to address security prolems in the gaza that is fair to isreal as a soverign nation trying to to defend her borders and citizens from hamas, and other terrorists organizations within gaza especially in the palestinan territories.A more realistic safer solution security wise is needed ..not just band aid quick fixes that puts isreali children and citizens at at risk.enough of the smear campaign against isreal already.step up to the plate with better working solutions with cooperation from all sides ….the world need peaceful realiztic solutions…

  39. I got a realistic peaceful solution. Israel comes in out of the cold. Joins the family of civilised nations that stick to their internationally recognised borders. Ends the brutal illegal occupation. Then we can all move on.

    • How ’bout the majority of the religion of peace come out, unequivocally against jihad, against bombing, against honor killing, against threats against Infidels, against internecine wars amongst fellow Muslims, against Islamist apartheid, against Islamist imperialism, against islamist calls for genocide?

      I fear that I am asking for too much from those who are too crazed.

  40. please don’t tell me that it’s more complicated than that. Complexity is the last refuge of the scoundrel and bull shitter.

    Having moved on we can then talk about football.

    But I warn you

    I have some very provocative things to say about football.

    I know that Daniel will either have to move to Israel or back to Milton Keynes. But hey whoever said being an emergent nation state was gonna be easy.

  41. roger writes:

    Those DNA studies have been discredited by genetic scientists in Israel itself.

    What is a genetic scientist and who are the scientists who discredited?

    Could it be that that is another of Roger’s “wisdoms” extracted from the one book he may have skimmed through?

  42. Colin Stephenson

    To Rich re sticking to internationally recognized boarders – Israel did & does in the case of Gaza – a rain of rockets is & was the result not to mention a very heavy build up in arms & explosives coming into Gaza’s under its international boarder with Egypt which Israel relinquished control of in the spirit of your suggestion. The previous time such a move was made ultimately lead to the six-Day War. Complain of a brutal occupation if you will but responsibility lies with Arab neighbours who in 48, 67 & 73 had great difficulty with sticking to international boarders & an ongoing inability to contain terrorist stronghold beyond Israel’s northern boarder & very regrettably now Sinai again.
    Ultimately your request is not that Israel conforms with the family of civilized nations but that it is treated like the Jew of the Ghetto – down trodden & spat at – relaying on the occasional good will of others to not let things get too far out of hand. That is the type of Jew that Christendom came to tolerate & even like – the Jew that can look after itself on a very tough block somewhat remote from the family of civilized nations is something those civilized nations seem to find hard to stomach as Richard so superbly chronicles for us .
    Rock on Richard!!!

    re Roger – some of the comments re DNA & race might be more welcome on a BNP blog –ignoring him might help move him elsewhere

  43. Norman Cohen

    So there you have it a made up conversation between the King of the Khazars and a Jewish Scholar is now “proof” that all ashkenazic Jews are descended from converts. In fact most scholars believe that only the Khazar aristocracy converted to Judaism and in fact it was never a true Judaism. So the whole made up theory is akin to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion being the blue print for the take over of the World by the Jews and is promoted by the same people.

    • Colin Stephenson

      And it is futile to point out that if Judaism or substantial parts of the Jewish people originated in the Caucasus then German would hardly be the core source of Yiddish which in case anyone does not know was the dialect of Eastern European Jews
      Then again why let facts confuse the issue – anti-semites once claimed Isaiah & other prophets were of Germanic origin

      • Colin..you’re not doing your research. There was mass migration from the Khazar empire westwards into Eastern and Central Europe.
        Yiddish derives from Slavic and Germanic sources.
        And did you know that words like ‘daven’ and ‘yarmulke’ are Turkic. Put your thinking cap on and figure it out.
        And where do you think the shtreimel comes from? According to the Encyclopedia Britannica it has tatar origins. I’m happy with Khazar.

      • richardmillett

        Seriously, Roger, you are best to go off and discuss your theories on far right wing blogs where you’ll be patted on the back.

      • why do you keep poo-pooing my contributions? These are not theories..they are interesting facts.

      • richardmillett

        Everything you believe is a fact and everything else that you don’t like is discredited. You are tiring and boring to discuss with.

      • can’t say I’ve noticed any discussion

      • richardmillett

        Tbh there’s nowt to discuss with someone who holds racist views that are discussed by far right Jew hate blogs.

  44. Norman Cohen

    Oh and by the way I have a theory as to why Gert has his anti-Israel website and posts here. It is a form guilt transference called scapegoating. Scapegoating is a hostile social – psychological discrediting routine by which people move blame and responsibility away from themselves and towards a target person or group. It is also a practice by which angry feelings and feelings of hostility may be projected, via inappropriate accusation, towards others. The target feels wrongly persecuted and receives misplaced vilification, blame and criticism; he is likely to suffer rejection from those who the perpetrator seeks to influence. Scapegoating has a wide range of focus: from “approved” enemies of very large groups of people down to the scapegoating of individuals by other individuals. Distortion is always a feature.
    You see the Belgians are responsible for the current problems at least in Rwanda and the Congo due to their inept colonial rule. Unlike the Jews the Belgians when they achieved colonial rule in Africa were not returning to their ancesteral lands from where they had been banished for over 2000 years they were there to impose their will on the majority indiginous population who were only granted independence when the Belgians realised they were simply unable to control the situation they themselves had created. Belgian colonists first planted seeds of ethnic hate when they distinguished the two ethnicities, minority Tutsi and majority Hutu which was the precursor the massacres that followed. The methods they used, measurement of the skulls was totally racist. They were also responsible for the problems in the Congo when they reliquished rule after nearly sixty years and left an ill prepared country to govern its own affairs precipitating wars much bloodshed and unrest for nearly fifty years. So Gert attacks the Jews and Israel for the sins of his own country as a form of guilt transference.

  45. You mean there are blogs that are further to the right than this one ? That I have to see.

  46. rich, roger,

    To bring a little Nakba into your lives I recommend you visit the IDF website.

    http://www.idf.il/english/

    And as always, Happy Nakba!

    • Why would anyone want to visit an IOF website?

      • I recommend you visit the IDF website so you can better understand your failure and defeat

        The Israelis are NOT the unarmed Jews of WW2 national Socialist infested Europe.

        Happy Nakba “rich”!

  47. Daniel Marks

    Hi Roger:

    “… I am an ignorant bigot, and an irrational Israel bashing Jew hater…”

    I have no recollection of calling you either irrational or a Jew-basher.

    I know of no Jews who have been bashed by you and the daft theories that you spew out regarding Khazar Empire, backed up by the irrefutable evidence that you found two words in Turkish and Yiddish that are similar don’t really count as GBH.

    Regarding Jew-hating being irrational, that is a claim I’ve never made. It is to my mind inherently evil and wrong, but where does logic come into it? Is it only logical to love or like Jews? Does logic govern our emotions, anyway, and is it supposed to?

    On an unrelated note, I wondered whether you ever got anywhere finding those Islamic blogs and forums in which you criticize Islamic theocracies. I’m sure you remember. The ones you mentioned last week.

    • Almani Sleiman

      Daniel,

      Roger has already admitted that he lied about the forums and blogs. He has called himself an “ignorant bigot”. Is that not enough humiliation.

      What more do you want from him?

  48. And like all bullies he doesn’t like it up him.

  49. Daniel Marks

    Hi Almani,

    I have read your blog and while I do not accept your conclusions, I have nothing against you personally. To the best of my understanding we are neighbors and are both children of Abraham. As a good neighbor, it goes without saying that I wish you and your family only well.

    Tragically, today we are on opposites sides of a conflict that I assume neither of us want. I am sure that you, your family and loved ones suffer more than as a result of this conflict than the Jewish People do. Someone said that if the Palestinians put down their guns, they’d be no war. If Israel put down its guns, they’d be no Israel. It’s a thought worth considering. We are not demanding unconditional surrender or white flags. We just want peace.

    Regarding Roger, he really is not party of our dialogue and while I can understand you having sympathy for him because he professes to be an “irrational Israel bashing Jew hater”, believe me, such people are the last thing you need.

    There’s him and Gert and many others on this blog who for their own pathological reasons will egg on the “Palestinian People” to harm Israel, but when you turn round to find them in the trenches next to you, they won’t be there – they’ll be blogging away while we’re fighting each other. They are bad for us and bad for you.

    I’ll tell you something else. If there is peace one day, they’ll either join the rejectionist camp or they’ll move on to find another anti-Semitic cause somewhere else in the world. Don’t forget that the roots of European antisemitism predate the Arab-Israel conflict by more than a thousand years.

    I wish you long life, peace and health

  50. Pass the sick bag Alice

  51. ” I wish you long life, peace and health”

    For so long as you remember who is the boss.

  52. Daniel what exactly are your plans for Almani in this river to Andromeda you have in mind ?

    • Similar to what happened to Hindus who lived for generations in what is now called the “Islamic Republic of Pakistan”?

  53. Hi Richard
    Why do you continue to allow the resident trolls to post here .
    You are ruining an otherwise first class blog .
    You gain nothing . Kick them into the long grass . You gain nothing and lose interesting contributors as a result .

    • what’s up Harvey? Can’t handle it? Freedom of speech too much for you? Ah I understand, you prefer a nice circle jerk. Got you. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

  54. Roge,r Harvey is a Daniel style cry baby

  55. Almani Sleiman

    Rich,

    Please do not be offended, but your attitude to this conversation seems somewhat frivolous and even childish. To me this is not a game or a joke. This is about the lives of my family and the survival of my people.

    I believe that I have little in common with Harvey and consider him to be a reactionary and a fascist , but he is quite right that the making of irrelevant remarks, mainly of a personal nature, can be the ruin of any dialogue. You can disagree without being disrespectful.

    I know that your heart is in the right place and hope you will relate to these comments in the spirit that they are intended.

    • Almani…can you post the link to your blog? I’d like to look at it. Thanks

      • roger
        are you going to comment on Almani’s blog?

        I have added her comments feed to my RSS watch list and look forward to reading you soon.
        ——-
        And note to Almani:

        if roger should happen to comment and you feel the need to erase his comment would you be so kind as to let us around here know what he has written? Thank you!!!

    • That’s quite hilarious Almani .
      ‘ We have nothing in common and consider me a fascist and reactionary ‘ yet you agree with me that irrelevant remarks of a personal nature can be the ruin of any dialogue .
      Since my short comment referred to nothing other than that , perhaps you can enlighten me as to why you consider me a fascist .
      I’m genuinely puzzled – not to mention your own Ad Hominem attack on someone you’ve not previously engaged with .

      • Harvey
        Almani has up a new post in which, if I understand her correctly she says that she wants the Peace Accord with Israel to go down the drain.

        So getting called a fascist by her seems quite a compliment by me.

  56. Almani it is not going to be decided here

  57. sorry bout the typos it was mixed in with the football.

    ” Today I have done badly but tomorrow I will do better.”

    Antoine St Just……….. l’enfant terrible de la revolution

  58. Hi Almani.

    No offence taken. You maybe should realise the kind of people we are dealing with here.

    On the one hand we have two or three Judeo Fascist illegal settlers who try to give the impression they are living ideologically pure lives.. That is only half the truth. The other half is that they are a bunch of losers that live subsidised lives presumably because they can’t make it in the unsubsidised regular world.They hear voices in their heads that they take to be God telling them that everything and more is theirs. They have the typical, well understood unshakeable sense of entitlement of the habitual thief.

    On the other hand we have half a dozen or so extremist nut jobs that are on the very fringes of the UK Jewish community. The community as a whole avoids them like the plague.

    You can’t reason with these kinds of people. And if you bicker with them you will go nuts. All you can do is to read them, learn as much as you can about them, and, yes, ridicule them.

  59. A one-state solution? Some interesting proposals here.

    http://www.yourjewishnews.com/Pages/21200.aspx

  60. Palestinians who oppose the boycott movement. It’s the bottom line folks. If anything, Israel will overcome this conflict with the promise of prosperity and smart phones for everyone.

    http://www.yourjewishnews.com/Pages/21168.aspx

  61. rich, The seventh anniversary of the 7/7 bombings of London transport which resulted in the death of 52 people (52 people naturally excludes the 4 Islamofascst beasts).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings

    How will you mark the day rich?

  62. TGIAI | July 2, 2012 at 8:20 am | Reply
    rich, The seventh anniversary of the 7/7 bombings of London transport which resulted in the death of 52 people (52 people naturally excludes the 4 Islamofascst beasts).

    Nice company you keep Richard

    • richardmillett

      Yea, and part of that company is….you!

      • Richard: Almani says on her blog that you are ”a very talented and clever Zionist propagandist.”
        I’m sure you won’t argue with that, and I’m sure you regard it as a compliment. You should be proud mate. Your moment of glory. Looks like Almani is your number one fan.

    • rich, Perhaps you would rather petition that a post stamp be issued to honor the 7/7/05 bombers.

  63. Quit trying to make me blush.

  64. Almani Sleiman

    Yes, Roger, Richard is very talented and clever. I disagree with his every word, but his articles are interesting and extremely well written. Why do we have no similar spokesmen opposing him?

    Please do not take offense, but it seems statistically unlikely to me that there are so many eloquent Zionist spokesmen while we have only bloggers at the level you and Rich and Gert to answer their beautifully written lies and falsehoods. I have no doubt that they are trained in Tel Aviv or at the Israeli embassy in in Golders Green. Why do we have no similar preparation programme?

    We need to understand that the cyber-battle is no less important than any other, it should attract our best people and it should be taken very seriously.

    • Almani
      Just to let you know the Israeli Embassy is not in Golders Green although many Jews reside there . It’s an easy mistake to make and not dissimilar to someone thinking that the Lebanese embassy is situated on the Edgware Road towards Marble Arch .
      Seriously though , your admiration for Richards style and content is well placed .
      Generally speaking , it’s far easier to write well when you speak from the heart and speak with knowledge and truth .
      The question you pose as to why pro Palestinian bloggers appear to be so lacking in intellectual input is that they tend to engage on a base level and substitute lies and personal insults for substance and the truth . You just have to read the missives of what passes for Palestinian advocacy on this site to appreciate my point .

    • Almani, How will you remember this seventh anniversary of the London transport attacks?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings
      Note the section titled “Videotaped statements”.

      Will you cry for the 52 dead or celebrate the attack outsourced from Towers Hamlet?

  65. Almani do you not know that more is less ? Richard, Daniel et al are only talking to each other. The only value is to read them and learn. The cyber battle is an inter cult thing. Of passing interest and a learning experience. You surely wouldn’t advise me to waste valuable energy ranting at the choir a la Richard ? Almani they are just TALKING TO EACH OTHER. And they hate interruptions.

  66. Almani do you seriously think Richard and Daniel et al have ever changed or modified a single mind ? Can you direct me to anything positive they have said ? Anything that might be helpful in arriving at a just solution ? Anything except ” Its ours, its ours, God gave it to us ” Do you seriously think I could be bothered to attempt to match the beauty of their eloquence ( koff ) ?

    Daniel what plans do you have for Almani in this river to Andromeda Israel you envisage ?

  67. Norman Cohen

    A line from the Almani blog that tells you all you want to know.

    The heroic opposition have refused the offer of the Damascus Zionist gang for a ceasefire and we can all smell victory.

    And she calls harvey a facist! (Obviously she’s the only one who would engage “rich” on this website).

  68. There you go

  69. Norman,

    In fairness to Richard, I do not consider this to be the correct place to discuss my blog. If you have any comments regarding what I wrote please post them there.

    Rich,

    You asked me for examples of where “Richard and Daniel et al have ever changed or modified a single mind”. Over the past two months I have made a thorough survey of this blog and I offer you two of many examples, in both cases where a Palestinian spokesman was made to eat his words.

    http://richardmillett.wordpress.com/2010/12/21/ahavas-female-staff-suffer-continued-bullying/#comment-5295
    http://richardmillett.wordpress.com/2010/12/21/ahavas-female-staff-suffer-continued-bullying/#comment-5299

    http://richardmillett.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/amnesty-and-middle-east-monitor-israel-hatefest-love-in/#comment-7488
    http://richardmillett.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/amnesty-and-middle-east-monitor-israel-hatefest-love-in/#comment-7492

    As opposed to Richard who is a skilled and accomplished writer, I consider Daniel to be a cheap demagogue and a soapbox orator who uses twisted Talmudic logic to confuse his opponents as Jews like him have done for many centuries.

    • ”I consider Daniel to be a cheap demagogue and a soapbox orator who uses twisted Talmudic logic to confuse his opponents as Jews like him have done for many centuries.”

      Excellent observation there Almani. But I have to say that you don’t sound like a West Bank Palestinian to me.

      I do think you tend to overrate Richard’s literary skills. He’s not exactly the Charles Dickens of the blogosphere. I’m sure he’s embarrassed by your flattery.

      • Roger
        Unfortunately you appear to have missed another excellent observation from Almani .
        ‘ There are so many eloquent Zionist spokesmen while we only have bloggers at the level you Rich and Gert ‘.
        Nothing to add really .

    • Almani said:

      “both cases where a Palestinian spokesman was made to eat his words.”.

      I’d have them eating something else.

    • Daniel Marks

      So, what do you expect me to use to confuse them? The Koran? “twisted Talmudic logic” is our secret weapon.

      By the way, a soapbox orator maybe, a demagogue no doubt, but I don’t come cheap.